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325.Schubert Trio - Yuja Wang, Renaud Capuçon and Klaus Mäkelä

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发表于 2023-8-17 19:10:42 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
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Piano Trio No. 2 in E-flat major Op. 100
(Wang, Capuçon, Mäkelä)
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-17 19:42:41 | 显示全部楼层
多么令人振奋的演奏,其节奏像激流一样不紧不慢地推动着你,让人无法厌倦著名的舒伯特长度,再加上美妙精确的动态重音和透明的管弦乐声音,这要归功于乐器的优点,在关键时刻将古钢琴变成打击乐。 我以前从未听说过这样的工作。 为所有高莱茵视频设定声音和视觉标准的技术人员值得特别认可。

Was für eine mitreißende Aufführung, in einem Tempo, das einen ohne Hast vorwärtstreibt wie ein Strom, so dass man von den berühmten Schubertschen Längen gar nicht genug bekommen kann, dazu die herrlich präzisen dynamischen Akzente und ein transparenter orchestraler Klang, dank der Vorzüge der Instrumente, die das Fortepiano an den entscheidenden Stellen zum Schlagzeug machen. So habe ich dieses Werk noch nie gehört. Besondere Anerkennung verdienen die Techniker, die bei allen Hochrhein Videos klanglich und visuell Maßstäbe setzen.
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-17 19:56:39 | 显示全部楼层
这种老式钢琴的声音具有特殊的音色,赋予其悠扬欢快的性格。 当代钢琴更适合拉赫玛尼诺夫和其他后浪漫主义音乐家的音乐; 他们有一种相当迷人的深沉和严肃的黑暗性格,但也许有一定程度的丧失了旧钢琴发票中快乐的一面,埃拉德,加沃,他们的声音在我们的曾祖父母时代(19世纪末, 20 世纪上半叶。)

Le son de ce piano à l'ancienne a un timbre particulier qui lui donne un caractère chantant et allègre . Les pianos contemporains sont d'avantage adaptés à la musique de Rachmaninov et autres musiciens post romantiques; ils ont un caractère sombre profond et grave assez fascinant mais peut être y a t-il une certaine perte de ce côté allègre des anciennes factures de piano , des Erard, Gaveau dont le son était familiers au temps de nos grands et arrière grands parents ( fin XIX° , première moitié du XX°s..)
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-17 22:28:45 | 显示全部楼层
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-22 09:02:50 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Reader86 于 2023-8-22 10:04 AM 编辑

What a fantastic ensemble. There's a lot of textural restraint to the playing that allows the melodies to sound cheerful but not saccharine. I don't know if this is an interpretive mainstay of this piece, but notice Sol Gabetta's steely, non-vibrato color at 7:48 which made that section seem appropriately eerie and mysterious.

The Andante con moto at 16:33 is one of the most beautiful movements I ever heard! Three highly qualified musicians play music by a highly qualified composer. What a joy to listen to this!

就像仁慈的太阳的第一缕阳光一样,这种音乐让我们看到新的承诺和大自然的所有奇迹。 这些作品唤起人们无法观察的力量,拉动心灵的弦,吸引怀旧之情,唤醒爱情、剥削的生命和饱受折磨的守望者的麻木

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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-22 09:10:24 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Reader86 于 2023-8-23 11:08 PM 编辑

这首摩托(moto)行板无疑是音乐的顶峰之一! 往中间走,有一段让人脊背发凉的通道!

Cet andante con moto est assurément un des sommets de la musique ! Vers le milieu, il y a un passage qui donne des frissons dans le dos !

An impishly Mozart-ine work, especially after 32:24, when Schubert playfully makes the melody pretend to "stutter" by repeating each of its notes, its "consonants," an equal number of times!   Enchanting.  Also, nowadays it's reassuring to hear a 200-year old trio played by a trio of wholesome twenty-year olds!   No tattoos!  Herrlich!

I so love this piece of Schubert's music - so full of intensity without any loss of musicality. A fine rendition of it!
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-23 22:11:23 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 Reader86 于 2023-8-23 11:22 PM 编辑

Needless to say, the music is heavenly. The Andante is painfully beautiful. It aches so much that it heals inner wounds! By the time its main theme recurs in the Allegro, we're already high up there -- in Paradise! As for the performance, it's at least 8/10.

Passionate yet graceful performance, splendid!

I can say I'm addicted to the 2nd Movement. So slow and shadowy. It makes you the will of throwing everything up. But then it breaks into a warm and bright melody. Shubert is so emotional, I like that in music.

A very sensible interpretation. I remember when I played it with a violinist from the Vienna Symphonic Orchester and the cello soloist from the same orchester. When you live in Vienna you must play this. It is like oxygen or water, absolutely necessary to survive.
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-23 22:35:00 | 显示全部楼层
Their mannerism may not be exactly orthodox. But for me, their performance is really high quality. Her mannerism is not affecting her performance. It is a beautiful, passionate performance of a incredibly beautiful piece of music.

Schubert is quoting Beethoven's 4 note motive in this, yes? I seem to hear it a few times and don't think it's just coincidental or because it's C minor/E flat major. I hear it in the piano at 1:08-1:09 and perhaps echoed by the violin at 1:18-1:19 and again at 4:42 and 4:52.

The 2nd movement tickles the soul.




@Squidward_Tikiland
@Squidward_Tikiland
6 years ago
some pieces of music, i have a hard time knowing what to make of them. they sound good and well put together and peformed (like this one), but its like the message is lost on me. Bach's Art of Fugue hits me right away, on an emotional level, S.L Weiss even moreso. am i missing somthing? I wanna appreciate more classical era and romantic era stuff, but i find it....challenging?

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@bertrandmarotte4401
@bertrandmarotte4401
6 years ago
If I might be so bold as to suggest an approach: listening more for the dynamics of a piece rather than what it may be "saying" or what emotions it summons, the way it is structured, the architecture if you will.

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@Squidward_Tikiland
@Squidward_Tikiland
6 years ago (edited)
Bertrand Marotte ok. ill do that more. i enjoy the structure of baroque music alot, especially the counterpoint. it summons not only emotions, but the image of shapes and colors. Classical and Romantic era music does to, but instead of a sublimely interwoven shape (Baroque), it causes me to see thick, blocky shapes (Classical) and thin, spindly shapes that collapse on themselves (Romantic), but i will do as you say, in hopes that i will see more good in Classical and Romantic era music.

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@Squidward_Tikiland
@Squidward_Tikiland
6 years ago
I tried it with this and other pieces. it worked. thank you so much! really, that was helpful.



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@jpgolan1944
@jpgolan1944
6 years ago
It seems you are more at home with music that follows mainly one theme, is straight lines, so to speak, while Schubert's trio has multiple themes variate in intricate arabesque-like lines coming at you from all directions. Just sit there. close your eyes (yes, you'll not be able to see the cellist...!) and let the music move your heart.

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@bertrandmarotte4401
@bertrandmarotte4401
6 years ago
Leonidas Diamandopoulos I find that just discovering and exploring music -- all kinds -- is reward enough

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@Squidward_Tikiland
@Squidward_Tikiland
6 years ago
listening again more closely, i heard several themes and motifs, the same ones at different pitches and speeds, repeated throughout the peice and interwoven in harmony. quite interesting. it is less challenging now.
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-23 22:41:58 | 显示全部楼层
舒伯特,多么美丽的音乐家,一支雪茄,一杯莱茵白葡萄酒,在湖边漫步,傍晚的天空,远处维也纳的屋顶,还有蒸汽升起的多瑙河的曲线,还有那丝般柔滑的头发。欢笑的少女,岸边若有所思的舒伯特,浮桥上、法兰绒裙上迷茫的恋人,月光下欢笑的少妇精致的乳白色的身体,舒伯特还没来得及完成他的迷人作品,就突然消失了,银色的月亮漫不经心地漫步的波涛上的琶音的光彩

schubert , de si belles musiciennes , un cigare , un vin blanc du rhin , et flâner près du lac , le ciel vespéral , les toits de vienne au loin , et les courbes du danube d'ou s'élevaient les vapeurs , et les cheveux si soyeux des jouvencelles rieuses , et schubert pensif sur la berge , amoureux éperdus au ponton , sur les robes de flanelle , corps laiteux exquis des jeunes femmes riant au clair de lune ,, schubert disparût soudainement , sans avoir pu achevez son oeuvre enchanteresse ,,l'éclat des arpèges sur les ondes ou la lune argentée promenait sa nonchalence
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 楼主| 发表于 2023-8-23 22:42:36 | 显示全部楼层
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